Garrett Bradley & Gabriel Rhodes
Sound accompaniment: the ping of text messages coming in, a car beep and engine revving, sounds while taking a pause, another car honk, an extremely loud crow’s caw as it flies by the window
Drinks: Seltzer and Bell's Two Hearted Ale
Some things that joined us in the conversation: Nomadland, Miele vacuums, Time, Garrett's MoMA show, Brooklyn Friends School, Linda Goode Bryant, Laura Poitras, Flag Wars, Garrett sharing Sundance award with Fox (at 4:10), Alone, Below Dreams, Families and Friends of Louisiana’s Incarcerated Children, Gina Womack, Matangi Maya M.I.A, Concordia Fellowship, Sundance Labs, Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave, Newtown, American Neorealism, Charles Burnett, Julie Dash, Sonny Rollins, The Source of Self-Regard by Toni Morrison, Marking Time: Art in the Age of Mass Incarceration at MoMA PS1, Nicole Fleetwood, S-Town podcast